Could you imagine the rage you would have if your partner severed your finger? We are with you, Johnny Depp.". Please note that uses cookies to improve your experience and to provide Shes far more concise and believable than he was (imo). the crying? See the message that he sent. All the essentials: top fashion stories, editors picks, and celebrity style. #jasonmomoa is now splitting with his wife after starring in a film with her. The actress captioned the photos with a strong, simple statement: "One dress, four years apart. I do believe Johnny is downplaying the severity of their fights, and I do believe amber is embellishing the shit out of them. He was replaced in his role as Gellert Grindelwald by Mads Mikkelsen. Its only now that her story has been corroborated by a man that her allegations are once again being taken seriously. Not convinced at all, I have no idea whats going on (I know they are in court) can someone explain all this to me?! Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Nope, I cant imagine a single scenario in which I write threatening messages on the wall in blood with a severed finger. Some people do. including someone who is wearing the rings Johnny wears they would cause marks & both have testified he wore them all the time, except the images of her face and bruises do not measure up one bit to being repeatedly hit and choked by a man larger than her. The two were together for 16 years, which means their divorce might come as something of a shock. After tweeting "#IStandWithAmberHeard," the women say they've gotten threatening messages. The mother of his children, Winona Ryder, Kate Moss ect.. All concluded he was not an abusive man. Im sure he probably was abusive in some way by being reactive. "But to do it for such a prolonged period of time on Wednesday, that to me was a problem. Both have stated that they dont believe men are victims of abusive women, that the man always has the power in the relationship and therefore its their own fault if they are harmed by their victim. Both have also said that even if Amber is lying, anyone who supports Depp is a misogynist. this. Go figure. And he was my favorite actor since my childhood. However the cavity search? Richard Marks says 'family-friendly companies like Disney' are the 'pinnacle' of . We shouldnt expect them to behave like perfect victims nor should we demonise them for staying in a relationship or not fighting back. So mutually abusive can include physical vs verbal abuse (they do not have to be the same type of abuse). News images provided by Press Association We strive to provide you with a high quality community experience. Okay, I was just answering the question you asked. Ad Choices. #JasonMomoa #LisaBonet, Antoinette (@starshine_3) January 13, 2022. So that commenced in a lot of pettiness. The fact that he didnt assault her back is enough for me to think he didnt abuse her. The top comment there says "It's time to change "believe all women" to "treat every woman's claims seriously and then look at the evidence."" It's really not hard to tell that none of them even glanced at the evidence. Same. Those who know me can tell you about the passion that I have not just for my job and the company that I work for but . All rights reserved. Also I think he cut his own finger but you didnt ask that. The minutiae being combed through at the trial has come to feel less like a lawsuit and more like a torturous exorcism of the past, a thorough and painful raking over the coals of their four-year entanglement. Its time to believe Heard. He admitted it to his own doctor and those messages were shown in the trial. And regardless of what Heard did or didnt suffer at the hands of Depp, isnt the relentless memeing of her a form of violence in itself? Instead, amber decided to play victim. He refuses to look at her. Johnny never would have brought this if there was evidence. When any women challenge them, they get shut down with insults about being old and fat and jealous of Amber. One is a cluster B nutcase who has been physically abusive to her partners and is the perpetual victim. Photo by STEVE HELBER/POOL/AFP via Getty Images. This one require some mental gymnastic or maybe a blind faith. He shot himself in the face.. As many have pointed out, however, none of this should come as news to anyone seeing as Amber Heard said Johnny Depp abused Amber Heard last year. This is a morally grey case, and Amber Heard is a millionaire, she'll be fine. After watching a segment of trial testimony - where Heard described Johnny Depp as the love of her life but also this other thing this awful thing that would come out - Lawrence was asked her opinion. I suppose my real question is, are they saying she did it intentionally? Hes no shy, poor guy here. She showed you many she took of Johnny sleeping or passed out how many photos has she shown you of her injuries as a result of Johnny???. We free each other -to be who we are learning to become. They end it with J & L. After the statement comes a number of photos, including one of an early evening sky, and one of someone holding a bird while wearing a shirt that says May my soul shout love.'. Abuse isnt always immediately obvious and usually requires investigation to confirm. Group Leaders arent expected to spend any additional time in the community, and are not held to a set schedule. , of course they will say she did it intentionally. Depp's refusal to look at his ex-wife during her testimony sparked spirited debate among each of the stars' supporters on Twitter, as they shared their opinions on the matter. think twice before sharing personal details, foster a friendly and supportive environment, remove fake accounts, spam and misinformation, delete posts that violate our community guidelines, reviewed by our medical review board and team of experts. This educational content is not medical or diagnostic advice. I agree we are conditioned to believe her not him. She said she was dragged across broken glass while naked and that her feet were cut with glass. The educational health content on What To Expect is reviewed by our medical review board and team of experts to be up-to-date and in line with the latest evidence-based medical information and accepted health guidelines, including the medically reviewed What to Expect books by Heidi Murkoff. It makes sense that she was going at him and he stopped her arms and out of spite head butted fucking hard to stop her fighting. During the first 10 minutes of testimony, Depp kept his head down. Unless you've been living under a rock for the past few weeks, you'll know that the ex-spouses are back in court. Clinical psychologist testifies that Amber Heard has two personality disorders. I believe her.I believe her because of my careful assessment of this case, and my very extensive understanding of what DA is like, what it involves, & how perpetrators & survivors think, behave and react.https://t.co/RP4apBrpAU via @BBCNews. Hes an addict, theyre both inebriated. Heres how they summed it up, and note that it didnt include anything about actress Amber Heard: The statement begins with them telling readers that they have felt the squeeze and changes of these transformational times, and that they are parting ways in marriage. They assure fans the love between them carries on, evolving in ways it wishes to be known and lived. A redden spot on the cheek doesn't count towards damage nor does a bruise on the arm. A Group Owner is a member that has initiated the creation of a group to connect with other members to share their journey through the same pregnancy & baby stages. We are so proud of you for being able to get through her testimony. And Ive been angry before but thats not angry thats insanity. Specifically, fans think they mightve started seeing one another while working together; similar to how she initially started dating Johnny Depp. You stated yours too & I didnt agree with you which is also okay lmao. Lawrence was also asked her opinion on Depps testimony. Does it mean shes lying about Depps abuse? The only evidence she submitted was the . Maybe because the Internet has decided that Depp has already won this trial. Exes Johnny Depp and Amber Heard have had a tumultuous relationship that was examined thoroughly during their widely viewed defamation trial. (Ex: him drinking in front of her knowing itll piss her off). Use of this site is subject to our terms of use and privacy policy. Actors Johnny Depp and Amber Heard are going head-to-head in a US defamation case. Also, not specific to this case but people abuse other people all the time, very very badly, and get away with it! You listen to your wife. When I go into the courtroom . this!!! Based on what Ive seen of the trial, I think Amber Heard is very much the aggressor. Its recently been announced that actor Jason Momoa has ended his marriage with Lisa Bonet. Johnny Depp has been found innocent. ago. Some people do. I think shes narcissistic and liar and tried to convince everyone that she was the victim. We respect everyones right to express their thoughts and opinions as long as they remain respectful of other community members, and meet What to Expects Terms of Use. and indemnify Journal Media in relation to such content and their ability to make such content, If anything we have been conditioned by society to believe her and not him. Which was horrible and disgusting and deeply disturbed. Next: I also believe there was physical abuse. Its not going to be rehearsed, Lawrence said. And why has the judge not rebuked Depps demeanor? Thats not to say shes not awful, but I believe her story. Both have stated that they don't believe men are victims of abusive women, that the man always has the power in the relationship and therefore it's their own fault if they are harmed by their "victim.". Code, or contact the Council, at www.presscouncil.ie, Pip Christmass and Georgie Kearney / Justin Bieber. imagine a scenario: theyre in a fight, amber steals and hides his coke out of spite. They told Insider they choose to defend Heard because they want to support women more generally. We all understand that Depp fans will side with Depp. I didn't believe they could do anything for me. I wouldn't think the two of them would come out in his defense if he had been violent. pic.twitter.com/9N6nIctkD0, Winkie! On her first day of testimony, Heard, 36, said the defamation trial was painful. I would say that I don't take a position. Were watching people actively seek out humor in domestic abuse as Roe v. Wade is terrorized by pro-lifers and as we see yet more episodes of racially aggravated violence. We've received your submission. Though Ive felt myself veering toward it, I can no longer both sides this. Johnny Depp's refusal to look at Amber Heard as she testified about the alleged abuse she suffered during their relationship has sparked a debate online.. Depp, 58, filed a $50 million lawsuit . Anyways, maybe he was driven to react that way after being abused. Heard is being systematically jeered at and ridiculed like a medieval criminal in the stocks as she catalogs historic abuse, as she alleges rape. To revist this article, visit My Profile, then View saved stories. He refuses to look at her.#JohnnyDeppVsAmberHeard #DeppHeardTrial pic.twitter.com/RWDsfLdZ91. They bring gifts hell never open. On the other hand, he is larger than life. And two are middle-aged men who are white-knighting, accuse any woman saying they dont believe her of just being jealous because shes so hot and such a strong, successful woman and claim that its disgusting how women are defending Depp. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. I think its also a tough situation because abusers that are good manipulators will have everyone saying no, not them which can be even harder on the victim. she's a nut. The details of both Depp and Heards testimonies are harrowing all by themselvesgruesome, violent, and containing deeply intimate anecdotes about their relationship. The views expressed in community are solely the opinions of participants, and do not reflect those of What to Expect. Shes going to have to be extemporaneous [done without preparation], and that is going to be hard for her.. and RollingNews.ie unless otherwise stated. May 4, 2022 at 1:10 PM. Mind you, any evidence supporting that he was physically abusive has been largely discredited. I dont know if that was a strategy from her attorneys, but it came across as disingenuous, rather than just having a conversation and telling us her testimony. He also wrote disturbing messages on the walls, lampshades, and mirrors in blood with a severed fingertip. I havent been following much, but from what I have seen it sounds to me like he was pushed into reactive abuse. He said the op-ed was devastating to Mr Depp, suggesting that Disney wouldnt put him in the sixth Pirates film under this cloud. was testifying, I overheard a lot of people snickering, making snide comments, and laughing . I'm also glad you mentioned the homo/transphobia. Other weeks it just feels too heavy. So, why believe their testimonies? Just wondering if anyone out there believes her side of the story. I do believe she defamed him out of spite. Mr Marks said Ms Heard was calling out Hollywood to take action, and that the publicity machine was in high gear as the column was published around the release of her film Aquaman. I didn't think anyone would believe me. 483623. Start your Independent Premium subscription today. Feel like Amber really hurt the bi community in more ways than one (which i understand is small issue in comparison). I think most people that drink more may self report conservatively. Richard Marks testifies in the courtroom at the Fairfax County Circuit Court in Fairfax, Va., Monday May 2, 2022. Thats batsht crazy behavior. Being friends with Amber Heard has its consequences. Indeed, the message that Jason Momoa made seems very dedicated to the marriage he and Lisa Bonet once had. Hes radioactive, one studio head told THR. She seems extremely manipulative. "If [Heard] had kept her head down when he was talking she would have been accused of being guilty! Based on what I've seen of the trial, I think Amber Heard is very much the aggressor. Johnny Depps former manager has now supported Heards allegations. Ive ranted about people before to my friends but Im not abusive. But the truth is, neither one of them is acting. Though if Amber Heard is to blame, so too is Jason Momoa since it would also be his decision overall to end his marriage with Lisa Bonet. Still would be considered SA though. Yet day in and day out, Depps female fans flood the courtroom and stare lovingly at the back of his head. However the cavity search? All things that are equally horrible and disturbing. I am a woman who refuses to settle at a career and a life that is just, "okay". While Depp had repeatedly denied ever having been violent to Heard during the three-week trial in London, a judge found that The Sun's claims that the Kentucky-born actor was abusive to Heard were "substantially true.". this. Thanx. As the testimony continued, he seemed to have taken his sunglasses off, but continued to avoid looking up, instead appearing to doodle. As has Chris Rock, who said onstage last week that yes, we should "believe all women, just not Amber Heard." Wow.. [Stop] changing the narrative to suit your love for Depp. I haven't really followed it much, but tend to believe him. Amber Heard has more recall, detail and receipts than Christine Blasey Ford ever did. They all took drugs. Viewers believe Amber Heard's testimony was full of movie quotes. He admitted to cutting his own finger. Depp denied the allegations of domestic violence at the time despite photos, videos and texts between Heard and Depps assistant that suggested otherwise. Judges fail to back Adams' drive to curb big crime with cr Biden's WHO pandemic treaty would kill Americans in the name of 'equity', 'Tis the month Don 'GodBlessUs' Lemon and many other celebs were born, JK Rowling showing outstanding moral courage as she stands up to vile woke mob, 11-year-old reads aloud from 'pornographic' book he checked out from library at school board meeting, Family raises 250-pound 'dog' for 2 years then realizes it's a bear, Influencer refuses to switch business class seats so family can sit together, Prince Harry, Meghan Markle confirm they were asked to 'vacate' Frogmore Cottage. As a young woman alleging domestic violence against one of the world's most famous actors, Johnny Depp, she had no choice. I know a couple people who are on amber's side because they think Johnny Depp is getting better treatment and that people believe him simply because he's Jonny Depp. "I will never forget it," she said. posts, comments and submissions available. Depp is suing Heard for libel in Fairfax County Circuit Court in the US after she wrote an op-ed piece in The Washington Post referring to herself as a public figure representing domestic abuse. Why it's enraging that people only believe Amber Heard's domestic violence allegations now that a man has backed her up. ok, well he also sounded like an actor. Think in on of the recordings she tells him that even he told people she was hitting him, who would believe him. Johnny Depp 's defamation lawsuit against Amber Heard continues this week in Fairfax County, Va., shining a light on their tumultuous relationship while igniting discussions and debate about. There is none. ! pic.twitter.com/EsRFT4PA2M, Jen (@No_Reason_Jenz) January 13, 2022. The material on this site may not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted, cached or otherwise used, except with the prior written permission of Cond Nast. So he testified that after he severed a finger to the bone (she says he did it, he says she did it) and with blood from the severed finger he wrote messages on walls, mirrors and lampshades. "His behavior will be observed. Depp and Heard met on the set of the 2011 film The Rum Diary and married in 2015. In her 2018 op-ed, Ms Heard wrote that like many women, I had been harassed and sexually assaulted by the time I was of college age. And we sure as hell shouldnt have to wait for a man to back them up before we listen to them. ago Consider that a majority male jury convicted Harvey Weinstein. Mr Marks said Mr Depp managed to keep most of his personal life personal before his relationship with Ms Heard and what marked him in this business is that he was congruent, he was likeable, he was one of the guys. ", 'If you think somebody is ahead right now, that could change. Same with amber expect the misogynistic part to ageist. And people are just glossing over it I am confused. You might say Pirates Of The Caribbean is Johnny Depp and vice versa, he said. Heards time on the stand comes after Depps legal team spent three weeks painting a portrait of the actress in which she was allegedly verbally and physically abusive towards her then-husband. After that incident, Johnny understood what happened and was incredibly apologetic, and tried to set boundaries to leave the room before it could escalate into physical violence again. What to Expect supports Group Black and its mission to increase greater diversity in media voices and media ownership. Johnny Depp's refusal to look at Amber Heard as she testified about the alleged abuse she suffered during their relationship has sparked a debate online. 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