Come and get it in Northern Wisconsin. I own a JD LX280, which has been a great mower, but I have been looking at a ZTR for a couple years as an addition to the JD. I have two questions. The FasTrac is more in line with the mowers we are discussing here though. Ok, thank you for the clarification. If you still want to pick up the mulched leaves then get this sweeper> Agri-Fab 44 in. The ONLY difference between the ZT2100 and ZT2200 is the 2100 has 3/4 inch axles (900 lb capacity) and the 2200 has 1-inch axles (1000) capacity. Read more here: How to Support TodaysMower.com. In my area, Home Depot is still showing delivery April 30. Hi Deb, A year ago Bobcat the skid loader company purchased Bob-Cat mowers from Schuler Industries. Both are good dependable mowers. It has Toros great V-twin engine. It uses the ZT 2200 transmissions BUT, with the one-inch axles, the way the Walker is designed, the center steering, and the low center of gravity you will never have problems with them. Fab Deck Zero-Turn Mower. We can get the veterans discount at Lowes and Home Depot. DO not know enough about the hydraulic drive motors to know what is the best of the HD motors. The Smart speed is a lever that lets you reduce the maximum forward speed so you are not tempted to push the transmissions too hard when towing and it allows you to go slow when trimming so you dont bang into stuff as much. Please stop back later this summer and tell us how you like your new mower! The Gravely has the best deck for cutting longer grass and it will handle the hills. Any recommendations you can provide will be greatly appreciated. While the ZT2 would last much longer, my boss decided to go with the Jonsered tractor and its Costco guarantee even though Costco does not guarantee any product past the manufacturers warranty. Instead, move up to the $4000-4500 heavy-duty ZTRs with ZT2800 or ZT32OO transmissions. In your case I suggest the Gravely. You can check out my videos of the Toro Timecutter and Ariens IKON XD here: https://www.youtube.com/paulsikkema. So yes they are going to have a demo day in April and will take a look. Other thought was to get the 75742 then add the Rop Shop suspension seat but at that point Im only a couple hundred from the 75755 so probably not worth it. The 48 48SC-BS24 is on sale for $4207 at sleequipment.com which seems to make it the best value of the 4 Bradley Stand on options. The $2k difference from high to low seems like a lot but the dealer was pushing the $5100 one. Gator Blades the mulching blades with the teeth on the back will just shred the grass and leave little puff balls all over your yard if you try to side discharge with them. DO NOT buy the Dash. The 4-point deck doesnt bounce on rough ground and follows the wheels of the mower. (There are a lot of small assembly shops that do make components for most brands). Skaggs has a good blade change system, for no lift style. However, Im not sure how comfortable I am going to feel on that hillside. A Walker mower has a lot less stress on the transmission than the mid-mount ZTRs. I also am looking at the 46 inch cub cadet. The 4-point is also strong enough that you can step on it to get on and off the tractor. Ive heard nothing good or bad on the Cub Cadet engine. Super Lube 82016 Anti-Corrosion & Connector Gel, Translucent Amber Amazon 2 $599 USD Dreamscape PermLine Aluminum Landscape Edging - 15 Strips, 8ft Each (120 Ft Total) , Bronze Duraflex Professional Quality Landscaping Border, Aluminum Divider for Lawn, Garden, Flowerbed Amazon 3 $17 USD ), since Im hoping to do a bunch of that myself. Hi Mike, Your biggest problem is traction. I always leave my decks at the mowing height. 3. I mow about 3 acres. We need a new mower and at our Husky dealership they had a Rhomba like battery mower that can do up to a 35% grade. However, I just saw your comment that Toro is dropping their steering wheel models, so if I went that direction, Id almost certainly be getting the Cub Cadet, one of the models with a 46 cutting deck. Most people seem to lean towards wanting Kawasaki engines. Its not a bad idea for the first year. Ive always liked John Deere, but I am concerned that their decks accumulate too much grass clippings and get clogged. My 12-year-old Craftsman 42 lawn tractor just died and decided to replace it with a ZTR. I easily say that this mower is thru and thru a Walker and will probably be the last mower you ever buy. Kawasaki has a lot of name brand recognition with the small owner/operators. If I got a tractor, how beefy of a model would I need to get? The most important thing to me besides the bagger is reliability. I just want something that will give me the best cut on slopes. Do you have any reason that you would value one over the other? This is going to get priceysoon! #2. These start around $2500 and the good Cub Cadet and Husqvarna models are around $3200. Thanks in advance for all your help! Q: Is Kohler EFI engine a reliable engine? IronForged Deck 24.5 HP Commercial V-Twin Gas Dual Hydrostatic Zero-Turn Riding Mower Available at The Home Depot Also available at Tractor Supply, ACME Tools and your local Toro Dealer. Hows the hustler dash, toro timecutter, or the ryobi rider? Both are good engine brands with proven track records. I cant really understand why Bad Boy wants to charge you $600 more for the Kawaski FR 630. John Thought kubota z421kw was nice. Spec-wise they are almost identical. If you want a heavy-duty mower and its the last one you ever want to buy then the ZT HD is a good choice. You are right that the dealer can often make the difference, and the one I got mine from is awesome! Want to do most maintenance myself, easy blade change etc. Toro is consolidating their residential mower line and the new MyRide is selling faster than they can make them. I dont think anyone has an IKON XL or a TORO 5075 MyRIDE for me to compare. But its biggest advantage is the mower will hang on slopes because the front wheels steer and both transmissions drive all the time. I cut about 2.5 acres per week of mostly flat terrain, including some tough pasture grass. (The neighbors have a hill that is, if anything, a bit steeper than mine. The only Country Clipper dealer within 100 miles is 17 miles from my home, and he has 2 Boulevards in stock: a new 2018 and a used 2016 with only 38.5 hours on the meter. Dont use one from the local hardware store. Ive seen it cut roadside grass two feet tall cleanly on the first pass. You get the heavier trannys and a reinforced deck. Thanks again. The Toro MX5075 will give you the best ride and a great cut. Im looking for a new mower to handle about an acre of gently sloped (about 10 degrees in spots) yard and am seriously considering going for a ZTR mower. To see all of the most recent financing and . By Paul Sikkema. Thank you very much, I appreciate your input. Hi Shane, Yes, Deere has made a lot of improvements in their decks in the last 10 years. No one else has this type of control because Country Clipper has the patent but its by far the best zero-turn steering on the market. If you have inexperienced operators a fabricated deck will hold up better to them banging it against foundations and trees. Husqvarna has the largest selection including the articulated made specifically for steep slopes. Hi paul, Great review!!! This turned into long story long so again i really appreciate your time! You would have to go up to the Bad Boy ZT Elite to get the same heavy-duty machine as the Ariens/Gravely. Always use the John Deere or Briggs & Stratton Yellow Oil Filter and change the oil at the recommended intervals. I not only look at the price, the craftsmanship, and the quality of cut but also the dealer network, ease of warranty service, and parts networks that support the product. Its a few dollars more than the Ariens, but I like having a local dealer in case anything goes wrong. The Toro 75315 Titan is designed for high performance and comfort with the MyRide suspension system to absorb the bumps. 76601. option as I could buy two of those for the price of the Walker or Clipper, Decisions, decisions.. Hi Wilson, Yes, Bradley is a hard sell to many people because he has never set up a larger dealer network. Anyone considering buying the new Gravely zero turns need to reconsider it. Hi Kurt, Im always a little partial to the Exmark. (all those clipping need someplace to go and raising the deck up will let them drop into the grass) They will both work flawlessly on your normal lawn. Its now owned by a Chinese company though the mowers are still made in Beatrice, KS. Hi Ryan, My first concern is service and parts availability. It seemed to be better but still after running for a while, it would falter and not be able to get up steeper slopes as it did when new. Hi Larry, I have not seen that anyone has possession of one of the new Ryobi ZTRs yet. I have just under an acre to mow with one 18 degree slope that drops off to nearly flat in about a 12 foot run in my backyard. Fab 22.5 HP V-Twin Gas Zero-Turn Riding Mower with Smart Speed, Toro TimeCutter HD 48 in. So I am looking at potentially free delivery of the machine to my home. What do you recommend? I just noticed that the 48 Accel Deep deck is 10 gauge, that is nice. I havent been able to see much on the cut quality of the apex and if its worth the extra $1000. I just dont think I need a heavy duty mower, but maybe the heavier Cub would last longer. It has a very small, cheap engine. Just so you know. It helps the fuel last longer and the escaping vapors wont wreck the environment. Paul It helps keep the fuel fresh and some stabilizers also clean your carb and fuel system without messing it up. Hi Paul, The start sequence is enabled by a pressure switch from weight in the seat. Hi Adam, When the Husqvarna MZ came out 10 years ago there were very few ZTRs in the high residential/entry level pro category but today there are many more that have stronger frames, better cutting decks and ride better. TORO TimeCutter 60 Commercial 24.5 HP V-Twin Zero-Turn Riding Mower ONLY 21 HRS. You helped me purchase my last mower which was a 46 Craftsman Pro and it worked out great for our needs at our last home (hills/very few trees). I recommend the comfort seat and trailer hitch options. Hi Dan, Yes, the ZT1 has the same hydros as the Jonsered. John deere, gravely, bob cat, toro, exmark. Its worth the extra $400 over the Toro has better transmissions than the Toro and cuts as well as the Ariens. The Kohler Confidant is a commercial engine. I would like a bigger deck, at least a 54inch so I can be donestyle points on grass not important. (It also has to do with the weight of the ZTR, the weight of the average operator, and how much downward weight the transmissions axles can handle). Both Gravely and Toro will be around for parts and service for years to come. Evaluating the following ZTRs: If you're working on delicate property, these mowers may not suit your needs. Thanks! Never had a ZTR, but I was initially leaning ZTR (looking at Spartan and Hustler SDX) UNTIL I stumbled on the Bradley Stand on in the same price range! I am narrowing down my decision and researched Exmark but I am not that familiar with Walker ZTRs. Do you think I should go down to a 42, or stay with the larger engines and beefier decks that come with the larger mowers? For example, I like my local Toro Dealer a lot. Seems like Im hung up on Toro because of the Ex-mark connection. Motor repair on commercial mowers can range anywhere from $1000-$4000 for 60-inch commercial zero-turn. In all honestly, there are so many different brands, it can be a challenge to keep track of them all. The power from the Kawasaki is enough to propel the X-Series to a 10mph top speed. The Ariens IKON XL and Gravely ZTXL (Same machine) are good choices. 2. ), good speed, would like towing capability (limited I suppose), and riding comfort (albeit, reliability is more important to me). Since Cub Cadet is the newest and they tried to hit all the consumer pain points which includes noise, Ill have to guess the Cub Cadet is quieter. I have the Mulching kit installed but I cannot keep the deck from getting gummed up with clippings. You'll glide on air with the MyRIDE Suspension System, and enjoy pro-level confidence with a commercial drop pin, canister style air filter, a rubber chute, and massive rear drive tires with aggressive tread for maximum traction. Considering the lack of step and handrail, would the Boulevard still be your first choice for me? The alternative is the MX6050. Im thinking its ok to go stamped since I dont commercially mow. I think I like the idea of a lighter, more nimble mower, but perhaps the heavier one is better for most general applications. Check Price. The two best are Stihl and Husqvarna for the U.S. market. Trimming with the Model R is unbeatable. I would like to upgrade from my 2000 dixon with a 50 deck and a 15.5 hp vanguard. Thats very helpful. The angle of the belt from the engine to mower is less when the deck is higher and that seems to help. The Model R is very easy to work on. I prefer to by from a dealer for possible future support. I think theres always 100.00 off to new card members for their first purchase. The wider decks get done faster and make it easier to trim around stuff. I suggest using the Cub Cadet blades until Oregon comes out with a set for the Ultima decks. Have someone engage the deck and watch the belt, idler bracket, spring, and each pulley. By far, the most important factor for me is the cut. Yes, most people dont see the advantage of the steering wheel so Toro is discontinuing it. Hi Dick, The Toro TimeCutter and Cub Cadet XT1 will give you about the same life expectancy as your old Toro. Bad Boy Vs Toro Timecutter Residential Mowers | Zero Turn Mower. Looking at either the Toro 42 in Time cutter with the Toro branded engine (75744) or the 50 in with the Kawasaki engine (75750) Then on the flip side on the Cub Cadet Im looking at the 46 in (ZT1 46) with the Cub Cadet branded engine or the 50 in (ZT1 50) with the Kawasaki engine. Hydro-Gear transmissions. Stamped Decks Inexpensive Mow well, bag well, and are great for smooth lawns. Im going to be down in the Bradley, Il area the middle of June. Kohler, Cub Cadet, LCT, Yamaha, and Toro all have newer, more fuel-efficient designs. Both have deep 42 stamped steel decks 12 gauge on the Deere and 13 gauge on the Cub, and they both pretty much have the features I want, except the Cub doesnt have arm rests. The Kawasaki I believe is the lower end residential mower engine and Kohler is the introduction lower end Commercial engine. You dont need the armrests because of the way you drive the Walker. Hi Paul, Hi David, Both mulch well with the optional bolt-in mulching kits. This deck is the best cutting 42-inch deck in the industry and its very rugged a lot more rugged than a stamped deck. If I recall correctly, Bradley actually had a stand-on before Bob Cat. (Since I review mowers I like to keep a fairly new unit here) $3500, 200 hours, very well maintained. 3. Do you have a preference in the Ariens XD 52 vs the Toro 50? Yes, the commercial operators insist on having them but they quickly realize their only advantage is getting into small residential properties. I just had a ..make my day Clint Eastwood moment but in a good way (smile). Walker will gladly come out and demo one on your property. Its as heavy-duty as many of the commercial machines. You will like it. One con. The Kohler 7000 is an extended life engine. So with proper care anything will last a lifetime. The Toro Titan with MyRide is the best riding residential mower on the market. Probably could pull the cart full of rocks easily for a long time. Its built like a tank, rides well and cuts very well. I like the fully welded frame on the Cub Cadet but on the other hand, you never hear of frame cracking on the Deere either. I know the Ariens/Gravely has zt-3100 hydros. Fuel tank capacity of 11.4 litres. Oh, Im 62, in reasonable shape, dont mind the exercisein fact, kinda keeps the joints lubricated (smile). Your thoughts please. My five is in engine, transmutation and durability with Max cut height in mind. Hi Joe, I want to start off and say Im not picking on you this comment has to do with the industry as a whole. The Toro commercial engine also has a great reputation. Toro Premium Fuel Treatment helps ensure clean, reliable engine performance and protection. Everything opens up for cleaning, inspection and belt replacement. If you have to sit on the seat to start the mower there is an electrical pressure switch inside the seat. The Gravely ZT HD is the same mower as the Apex. The John Deere mulches, bags and side discharges the best of all the 42-inch ZTRs on the market. Its a stand-on mower. They both cut well and will last you a long time. I managed to ride it up and down the hillside a couple of times before it died on me. I simply have lost all confidence in residential quality mowers after my previous experience. Hi Glen, if stripes are your thing and it doesnt do the best for you Gravely does make a stripe kit for that deck (Ariens and Gravely are the same). 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