But right, Paul was not so special a case that he would be the only one God dealt with weakness, but his special case was because of abundance of revelations, and not for the reason of sin, like David revealed; Before I was afflicted I went astray: but now have I kept thy word. Psalm 119:67. Its rare to see a young man like Steven Furtick living in a 15 million dollar home with several astronomically priced vehicles in this day and age. Can you explain why? He started in Lenox, MA and fled the area (for legal reasons) and continued to move around the country ultimately settling again in Baltimore, MD. And, I am sure you could have hit a few more points and added many more examples. Thank you for your gracious words and help. What gives you the right to say who is or is not of God? What do you do when someone asks you whether a teacher is reliable or unreliable? Heaven is waaaay more important than pizza, as Im sure youd agree. I feel the same about Joyce Meyers. Besides Providence High in Charlotte, Elevation a Southern Baptist church holds packed services every Sunday at Butler High in Matthews, N.C., and, since last month, at Spirit Square in uptown Charlotte. Thats his conclusion. Such a belief betrays a surface-level reading of Mark 6:5 and a failure to consider Jesus wider ministry. Did Father God forget to send out a memo that these responsibilities have been passed down to you? Its a waste of your time and mine. I am far from perfect, and I can be wrong so I dont do any of this lightly, and Im open to correction. Yes, I agree with everything you said. He seems to believe what hes saying. Its that we wield the same kind of power that God has. Its the result of twisting Scripture, not of careful study. God has given us great promises in His Word, including promises of health and wholeness, as Jesus died on the cross to redeem us from sin and sickness. Sometimes, pastors make bad decisions. As he also told the disciples he would not always be with them physically; Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter (Holy Spirit) will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. John 16:7, which brought forth the gifts of the Spirit, even gifts of healing and miracles 1 Corinthians 12:9,10. In relation to his saying; I sought the Lord three times, that it might depart from me., I then think of the woman who followed Paul around bugging him to no end, repeatedly saying; These men are servants of the most High God, Acts 16:16-18, were in he handled that spirit, commanding it to come out of her in the name of Jesus, yet not this one, again, (because he knew the purpose); lest I be exalted above measure. So #1 is debunked. Thanks. Our mindset is important, but we need to be transformed by the renewing of our minds. Thank you for your encouraging words, Josh. Thats okay. Hang in there, Nicole. not that I cannot see problems/difficulties with this analogy! The idea that if there is evidence of Gods blessing this is proof of his approval. Unfortunately, many false teachers have perfectly orthodox statements of faith. It makes the most sense to apply it to Revelation, as it IS a book of prophecy. This is an entirely unbiblical idea, condemned throughout all of church history as heretical. If a brother or sister in Christ corrects us, rejoice! James says something curious. With all due respect, Word of Faith teachers ALWAYS demote God and elevate us. You rightly say; While its true that our faith can prompt God to act, but to then say; our lack of faith cannot prevent Him from acting if He wants to. It was those who had faith that received from God that day! He takes the first step. Christianity seems pretty boring (to some people) after listening to false teachers explain that God doesnt judge them, that God wants them to be rich, that they have the power inside themselves to live an amazing life, and so on. Not I. The Father is spirit. Im not blaming you, but pointing out that what youve written has been condemned by Christians throughout history as being entirely unbiblical. Of the many false things they preach, these are two things I hear the most: 1) Jesus healed everyone he encountered. Furtick, Steven (2010). Hope you are doing well, as it has been awhile since corresponding and you writing; When Furtick claims that Jesus was UNABLE to do ANY miracles because the power of God was trapped in the unbelief of humans, But since then, I just heard Andrew Wommack teach about Mark 6:5,6 saying we can limit God. Thank you for this. The question is whether you were, or werent and you were. He came to believe that, with that sentence, God had planted a "vision in my heart" to someday pastor a big city church. v13 says Now the man who had been healed did not know who it was, for Jesus had withdrawn, as there was a crowd in the place. Jesus healed this invalid who had no faith, HE DIDNT EVEN KNOW HIM! Its also biblical. Paul wrote a whole bunch of books in the New Testament, right? As with Marvel movies, theres a bit after the credits too. Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. His church, Forest Hill, has lost some members to Elevation. God has revealed (some of) Himself through His Word. Knowledge is important but it alone doesnt save. Youre right Steven Furtick doesnt seem like a womanizer or a manipulator. I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll. We want to understand the context of this passage before we even think about applying it. Thus if a family is comprised of a father, a mother and a son, nobody thinks there are three families or one person with three personalities or such like. Go back to Genesis and see that God created Adam out of the earth, and breathed into him, and he became a living soul. Post the video showing Seven stating this and 2 or more to find this man is misleading before you accusing. Dont you see? And if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll. He's more performer than pastor. "People who come through our doors are saying on the inside, 'Don't leave me the way you found me,'" says Pastor Steven Furtick. I was raised Roman Catholic and went to private Catholic school. Does being wrong confidently wrong mean hes not saved? Id like to ask you some very direct questions, and hope that youll be straightforward in your answer: Do you consider Steven Furtick a false teacher, or not? Trinity Afterward, they reconvened at a 24-hour diner to talk about Christ. There are two problems in that quote that relate directly the passage in question. The gospel is NOT being preached, and youre taking Jesus words out of context. I could list other verses that show the Holy Spirit is also distinct from the Father and Son, of course. The question is whether Steven Furtick can be trusted to teach and preach what God has said and, while most teachers say a lot of things that are true, the measure of a false teacher is that they too often say things that are untrue. After all, someone might say: whos to say that God is NOT energy? Fill out this form to submit a Letter to the Editor. Sorry, there are no recent results for popular videos. This is good stuff, my friend. Also who died and left you in charge of judging anyone? Its not that God enables us to do things because we trust Him and obey Him. The term family is singular. But that you may know that the Son of man has power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,) Arise, take up your bed, and go unto your house. Matthew 9:5,6. Hes pretty harsh. I never assume someone is saved,born again because they like to debate Gods Word. The word Sought covers a lot of ground. Now I pay attention more to the words spoken by pastors and dont just take everything they say as being true. God is the supreme authority in all things, and subject to none. He then proceeded to North Greenville University and graduated with a Bachelor of Arts in communications. "I love my calling.". God existed, then created humans, then became the Son to carry out different functions. He cant bear fruit if he remains a baby. Down the hall?"'. Its not a comprehensive look at the definition of false teachers, but its a start. God would have been an abstract theory. Thats wise. It is fascinating to watch in slow motion and magnified. Modalism is the unbiblical idea that there is one God who is only one person and that when we see the Father, Son, and Spirit, we are seeing three different manifestations of the same single person. Deuteronomy 6:4 Isaiah 61:1 Matthew 28:19 Mark 1:9-11 Luke 1:35 John 5:21-23; 14:10, 16 Romans 8:9-11 1 Corinthians 8:6 2 Corinthians 13:14 Hebrews 1:8-10 James 2:19. Let me ask you a question. Consequently, Jesus could give no further confirmation of His identity that they would accept. Billing Address. Their claim that God appears in different modes is both unbiblical and illogical. Why? Thank you for taking the time to share this. He did not pursue what was gain to him and he left the benefits of his heritage and education behind in order to know the Lord and the power of His resurrection, to be made conformable to His death. If not, do something about it. I believe it means all of Scripture and think these false teachings are adding to Scripture. Thank you for your encouraging words. Let me know if you have any questions. The Bible isnt about you. The story of Elevation since then is one of attention-grabbing sermon series and ever-rising attendance numbers. We cant know them all, as God has not revealed them to us. If you dont receive it in your heart, you limit what God can do. Your a leader but you are just the same as I am you are not more important your just held accountable because you are reaching more people do not twist the word to deceive people . After having said that, I believe youre probably right. (Now ubiquitous on bumper stickers all over Charlotte, the logo represents the resurrection of Christ.). If saved , is the man that teaches error deliberately contradicting the Holy Spirit ? Furthermore, nobody has a problem with the father speaking to the son, or the son speaking to the family or any of the other ideas that are used against the Trinity. In Scripture, God can do whatever He wishes. Word of Faith teachers regularly demote God and promote man. Not because He could not, but because He wouldnt do it under those circumstances. Because faith works by love, Galatians 5:6, and must continue in this love, if our faith is to work John 15:9. In my experience, people who are willing to be led by the Holy Spirit into a clear understanding of Scripture will change their minds easily. I was also intrigued by the Baptist form of preaching, energetic compared to Catholic masses. As for babies and stuff, it seems we Christians sometimes have a language problem. Insightful and reignited the importance of chasing after Truth. Jesus decisions about who to heal could have had several reasons or hundreds, or thousands behind them. Thanks, Thanks for your patience. You sound angry. Wommack, as you point out, teaches that we can limit God. I would suggest that this conversation might take place over several days or weeks, rather than in one sitting. Each weekend we broadcast our worship experiences to thousands of people across the world. It simply explains the nature of ritual purity. There's also the cool factor, stoked by a marketing-savvy Elevation staff of flip-flop-and-T-shirt-wearing twentysomethings. "I knew he was going to be successful at what God was calling him to do," said Corbett, now 31. Remember Jesus words about the sower, and the four kinds of soils. The post has since been deleted from Furtick's social media channels. Salvation IS a huge deal but if our only concern was salvation, we wouldnt need most of the New Testament. God is not limited in what He can do. If Im wrong, Im wrong and correcting me is doing me a huge favor. Thanks. Furtick puts the power in the hands of the unbelievers, rather than in Gods hands. The very idea of salvation contradicts that notion! As Josiah points out, Jesus healed people who had no faith as well. It shows that youre hungry for the true things of God, that you really want to see Gods people living like Gods people, that you feel anxiety over how many lost people are being led farther astray. True he draws us to himself (hearing the Gospel, as there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved), but it takes two steps for salvation as it is (by grace), but it also takes the second part (through faith) Ephesians 2:8. Can you please provide the date of the sermon you reference (or better yet, a link as most Furtick sermons are available online). Perhaps it is a topic worthy of a post for you sometime, if youve not already posted about it. Right? First: the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are properly understood as God. We arent wandering in the wilderness. This man may be and seemingly is wrong on some doctrinal issues. His sermons usually have provocative titles. Having volunteers isnt deceptive, but giving the impression that theyre going to be baptized is. Well, we know everything is made up with molecules (atoms with protons and neutrons), but to say God is a molecular structure does not fit, as the word does say clearly; all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist (all things hold together, in many translations), Colossians 1: 16. Do you agree with him that Modalism is true and the trinity is false? You take out of the passage what is already there what everybody sees. For many, it's the church's loud Christian rock music. If you will, please answer one simple question: Do you agree that God is a molecular structure? The little gods doctrine is, quite simply, heresy. Neither do I. Jesus sacrifice was the trick that restored mans dominion. Praise God! So, singing Jehovahs Witness songs would put licensing money in their pockets, furthering their ministry while promoting them as a source of good religious music. I end, if I did not reach my max, with Thessalonians 4: 6-9. That if you shall confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, and shall believe in your heart that God has raised him from the dead, you shall be saved. Its not unreasonable. To God? Is that the language of the kingdom? God the Father, son and spirit is one and same person in three forms to carry out different functions for man. The word is sozo, and its used here as a future passive indicative second-person singular word. If you will, please answer VERY briefly these are the only options I can think of, so pick one: Please just pick one, or propose your own as briefly as you can. Tony, It really only takes a couple of minutes online to find false teaching from the multitude of false teachers if people would just take the time. The 28-year-old lead pastor at Elevation Church in Charlotte anointed his lips and head with oil, knelt to pray with his entourage, and sang and danced to "What an Awesome God You Are," a gospel-rock song that was a new favorite on his iPod. Furtick along with virtually every other Word of Faith teacher says that God is dependent on us to do work here on earth, and in our own lives. Its also a heresy known as panentheism. Ask yourself, who was Jesus constantly praying to, himself? Id love to sit down with Steven Furtick. . Lets turn that around and see how you feel: Ive done my homework. Last week, 16-year-old Elijah Furtick, a hip-hop artist whose stage name is "dothedash!" You will receive a receipt via mail and email once your donation has been processed. Now it's your turn to get dunked, he told the crowd, wheeling out a cart loaded with shorts, T-shirts, flip-flops, sports bras, boxers and more. Its important to keep our eye on the actual question at hand. I am sick on my stomach and disgusted by your interpretation or misinterpretation of Gods chosen disciple. See, up until now I have walked with you, but when I send my spirit, I will be in you. He is wrong about the Trinity. Part of the problem is that we humans are too often lazy, impulsive, greedy, self-absorbed, and pleasure-seeking. Unfortunately, based on his own words, hes not like that. This too goes beyond Scripture to the point of contradicting Jesus words. Even Jesus cannot override your unbelief. I am changing forms. In Numbers 11, Moses doubted that Gods plan to feed meat to the Israelites would work. We dont have souls we ARE souls, which is a combination of the physical and the spiritual. Just yesterday I watched a clip of Jesse Duplantis, where he said (and I quote) You choose when you live, you choose when you die. Therefore, my brothers and sisters, make every effort to confirm your calling and election. How do you explain the trinity? 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